Namenlisten EWZ records: Topcha / Kolowert / Horodyszcze

Jose Marcos Rosin @, Córdoba, Córdoba, Argentina, Montag, 29.04.2024, 11:43 (vor 218 Tagen)

Hello, inspired by the Kostopol Namenlisten on the main page, I tried to do something similar but with several towns where my ancestors come from:

Topcha (Topcza, Toptscha)
Kolowert
Korzysc (Korist)
Horodyszcze (Horodischtsche)

I also included everything I found from:
Kamionka
Niespodzianka
Zelesnika

Analyzing the EWZ records of my relatives I realized that they were almost all concentrated in similar EWZ numbers, so I assumed that many of the other people from those towns were going to be close numerically speaking, I thought about it to do it more efficiently and not go through 100,000 records.

This is the first delivery of the mini-project. I want to deliver it now because I won't have time now but I would like it to be at least available in this raw form, I would like in the future to do what Kostopol has by organizing by families because obviously there are several records that are related.

I say deliver it now because I know that the time it will take me to do this I will finish it maybe years from now or never haha.

I feel that it can be very useful for quick searches (the Invenio search engine is very bad for this purpose, with all due respect) and also help a little with the lack of information that I feel there is from all these towns, at least in the SGGEE searches very little is found.

I did 3 runs:
124170-125000
18000-19035
36229-36708

2344 scans
763 records registered

I saved any records that mentioned any of the places of interest, I went through 2344 scans and took 763 records, roughly 33%, so I feel that my record concentration analysis was not that wrong.

I still need to do a couple more runs in some numbers where I know people from the area concentrate, I also have to continue the 3rd run, I cut it just due to lack of time.

I would like to know an email to which to send the pdf document so that it can be published publicly on the page (if you want it).

And I also share here the link to my Google Sheets (Excel) where the project is and everyone can see it, there are other sheets explaining a couple more things:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1x6XfcKY_NSY1avYroaKWXxDU6yWicA0s2LdIEL8eVxk/edi...

Considerations:

I understand that there may be errors and correct me if it's necessary, I will change them, but yes, please understand, it's not easy to read the records sometimes. With the time I became familiar with some surnames so I think that is within everything good.

I took some considerations with some names and surnames (example: all Luise or Louise were registered as Louise, or similar as Karolina vs Karoline I saved them as Karoline, Kebernik, Kobernick, etc are all Koebernik, etc).

Also the names of the places of interest that I'm most familiar with are a little more standardized, e.g. Topcza / Topcha / Toptscha, well, they were all named Topcha.

Tuchyn/Tuczyn/Tutschin = Tuchyn
etc

When places, surnames or names that I didn't know appeared, I put them as they appeared.

If there were words that I didn't understood exactly, I put them as I understood them.

And if there were words that I understood very little of what them, I didn't add anything.

Standardization speeds up registration in Excel because it autocompletes, because of this I made some considerations, as 90% of the occupations were related to the agriculture, those that are very similar to Landwirt (such as Landarbeiter, Landmann) I didn't save them, and if the person recorded had 2 jobs, I chose the most interesting (e.g. Landwirt & Tischler, I registered Tischler).

I don't know if you agree with the considerations I take but I think almost all of them can be solved by simply going and seeing what the record says origianlly.

I don't know if I have to say anything else haha, thank you because I think you all inspire me a little to do these things, and thank you if you publish it, I feel that it would be a great help at least for now maybe for someone, just help 1 person with this would make me happy.

So thank you, and I'll see if in a few months when I have more time I do the expansion with more records, the idea is to go through the maximum number of records possible, do you know of other numbers that have a good concentration of that area? If so, let me know haha.

(I think there should be a big indexing of all EWZ records from Volhynia, by the way)

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Namenlisten EWZ records: Topcha / Kolowert / Horodyszcze

Gerhard König ⌂, Montag, 29.04.2024, 15:47 (vor 217 Tagen) @ Jose Marcos Rosin

Hallo Jose Marcos,

da hast du dir sehr viel Arbeit gemacht.

In Deutschland gibt es ein Personenstandsgesetz. Eine ausführliche Beschreibung findest du z.B. hier: https://wiki.genealogy.net/Personenstandsgesetz

Alle EWZ-Stammblätter, die sich im Bundesarchiv Berlin-Lichterfelde befinden, sind in der Datenbank des Archivs erfasst. Jedoch werden nur die Personen in der Invenio-Suche angezeigt, deren Fristen lt. Personenstandsgesetz abgelaufen sind.

Gruß, Gerhard

Namenlisten EWZ records: Topcha / Kolowert / Horodyszcze

Helen Gillespie @, Samstag, 19.10.2024, 17:03 (vor 44 Tagen) @ Jose Marcos Rosin

Jose, I too have searched many EWZ52 films and should add that yes you may find many families within a village travelling together and were “processed” together because they were on the same transport- train- from their district, however most were the women, children and elderly in the 1939-41 period. Not many fathers of the household. Most men and older boys came by wagon with family possessions and so were processed later. My mother told me this (she was almost 15 when they left Kostopol by train in very earlyJanuary 1940.) As well, you may have noticed that there were many Galician Germans (Ga) processed at the same time so the “run” of families from the same area in Wolhynia (Wo) was not continuous.
Also be aware that there are missing pages in the microfilm. I have the Stammblatt number of my uncle but there’s a gap in the microfilm. And he died on the Russian front in 1943 so there should be no privacy issue.
Ludwig Brenner wrote of the EWZ process which was published in an issue of Wolhynische Hefte (Folge9??)
An index would be wonderful and there are some efforts being undertaken elsewhere (AGOFF?) and hopefully one day by SGGEE Good luck with your efforts!

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