Hello, Thank you for accepting me on the forum.
I have researched my family and discovered that they went from Prussia to Wolhynia between 1864 and 1870.
My great-great-grandfather was named Johann Balko and was married to Caroline Militz and had a son in Wolhynia on April 18, 1871 and was named Adolf Balko.
I found the records of the marriages and even the death record of Caroline Militz who is registered as Caroline Balxon and who happened in May 1880.
I would like to find the record of death of Johann Balko, but I know the dsta and even looking at the books I found no clue. Can someone help me?
thanks
Eliane
Re: BALKO family
Gerhard König
, Freitag, 10.03.2017, 04:55 (vor 3460 Tagen) @ eliane elena balko mettifogo
Hello Eliane,
in our Volhynia-Forum.
in the confirmation list form the Lutheran parish Rozyszcze I could read this entries from your family:
BALKO, Wilhelm * 1855 in Stadt Gentschischiwo, Kr. Mogilno, Rgb. Bromberg, konfirmiert 20.3.1873 in Wysoki, Sohn von BALKO, Johann und Ehefrau Caroline, Wirth in Janow (source: churchbook Rozyszcze 1873 Confirmations, p. 205, nr. 95)
BALKO, Heinrich * 1862 in Kwieciszewo in Preussen, konfirmiert 23.2.1877 in Janow, Sohn von BALKO, Johann und Ehefrau Caroline, Kolonist in Janow (source: churchbook Rozyszcze 1877 Confirmations, p. 24, nr. 61)
BALKON, Leopold * 1862 in Rgb. Bromberg, konfirmiert 29.4.1878 in Janow, Sohn von BALKON, Johann und Ehefrau Caroline, Kolonist in Janow (source: churchbook Rozyszcze 1878 Confirmations, p. 61, nr. 152)
BALKON, Adolph * 18.4.1871 in Janow, Kr. Wladimir, konfirmiert 26.5.1886 in Janow Osdjutitsch, Sohn von BALKON, Johann und Ehefrau MILITZ, Caroline in Lukow (source: churchbook Rozyszcze 1886 Confirmations, p. 269, nr. 742)
Result: your family came from Gentschischiwo or Kwieciszewo im Kreis Mogilno, Regierungsbezirk Bromberg.
gerhard
Re: BALKO family
eliane elena balko mettifogo
, Freitag, 10.03.2017, 06:01 (vor 3460 Tagen) @ Gerhard König
Thank you for your help !!!
With your help I already have a good part of the tree I was looking for.
Do you know why the death certificates of Johann and Wilhelm were not found?
Were they in some book that was destroyed?
greetings
Eliane
Re: BALKO family
Gerhard König
, Freitag, 10.03.2017, 07:16 (vor 3460 Tagen) @ eliane elena balko mettifogo
Hello Elaine,
Do you know why the death certificates of Johann and Wilhelm were not found? Were they in some book that was destroyed?
A death entry of Wilhelm BALKO I cant find.
It can be, that I found the death entry of Johann BALKO:
Johann BALKO † 4.9.1903 in Jasinowka, 79 years 5 month old, widower, born Prussia
source 1: Lutheran churchbook Rozyzscze 1903 (copy), page 217, number 334 - this book is in the archive Luzk, Ukraine
source 2: Lutheran churchbook Rozyzscze 1903, page 42, number 334 - this book is in the archive Warszaw, Poland (online, written in Russian and translated for you)
gerhard
Re: BALKO family
eliane elena balko mettifogo
, Freitag, 10.03.2017, 07:51 (vor 3460 Tagen) @ Gerhard König
Thank you Gerhard,
Age and provenance confer, but I will need to research more to make sure I am not a namesake.
But for me it is a great victory because I did not know that record. Now at least I have a clue to follow.
Regards
Eliane
Re: BALKO family
eliane elena balko mettifogo
, Freitag, 10.03.2017, 21:47 (vor 3459 Tagen) @ eliane elena balko mettifogo
Hello Gerhard
I was able to confirm that the Johann you located is really my relative.
I came back here to say thanks again, thank you for your help.
You can not imagine my happiness.
Regards
Eliane
Re: BALKO family
Irene König
, Samstag, 11.03.2017, 12:38 (vor 3459 Tagen) @ eliane elena balko mettifogo
You're welcome 
Re: Registers Wladimir Volinski
eliane elena balko mettifogo
, Samstag, 11.03.2017, 07:23 (vor 3459 Tagen) @ Gerhard König
Hello,
I have documents stating that he [Adolf BALKO] was born in Jelenow and was registered with the date of birth on June 9, 1909 in Wladimir Volinsky, although the correct date of birth was July 24, 1909.
I would like to find the records in the book so I researched the sggee books and your own website but did not find them. His name was Adolf Balko and [strike]his son[/strike] [was a son of] Gustav Balko and Juliana Heger.
Gustav and Juliana were married in February 1903 and had the following children.
Elsa in May or June of 1904/1905
Olga in May or June of 1907 in Jelenow
Adolf in June / July 1909 in Jelenow
Wilhelm in November 1911 in Sapust
If anyone can help me I will be grateful because as I said I do not know if I am doing something wrong in my search.
thanks
Eliane
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Re: Registers Wladimir Volinski 1909
Irene König
, Samstag, 11.03.2017, 12:35 (vor 3459 Tagen) @ eliane elena balko mettifogo
Eliane,
Please, do not open a new thread for the same family. Thank you.
There is no church book for the year 1909 online (nor is it at the Polish archives in Warsaw). They have a register with names for 1897-1915, like an index, but even if Adolf is listed, there will not be a birth date, only the number of the entry.
https://wolhynien.de/records/WlaWolynsk.htm
The Ukrainian archives in Lutsk hold books for 1906-1913 but with many gaps, no guarantee that Adolf is listed.
As for the document giving Adolf's birth date, how old is it? Who gave the information? Adolf himself or his parents? What is the other document that has the "correct date of birth" that you mentioned? Is it older? Just some thoughts. Besides, you should consider that a "correct" date was maybe less important at that time as it is for us in modern times.
Irene
Re: documents
eliane elena balko mettifogo
, Samstag, 11.03.2017, 19:31 (vor 3458 Tagen) @ Irene König
Hello Irene,
Sorry I did not know that I should use the same topic.
The document that says that he was born in June was issued by the church in Russian.
The document that said he was born in July was also issued by the church which says he made a confirmation in 1923, but that confirmation paper was issued in Prussia.
I also have the naturalization certificate which was made in Prussia in 1927, where a continuation data is the 24 July 1909.
If the parents' marriage records and the children's births were made in Lustz then they are lost?
In the records of SGGEE in the marriage of Adolf Balko in 1909 that is not part of this family.
I hoped you could tell me there was another place to look. Thank you for your help.
Regards
Eliane
Re: documents
Irene König
, Samstag, 11.03.2017, 19:48 (vor 3458 Tagen) @ eliane elena balko mettifogo
Eliane,
would you please send me the documents? My email address is here:
https://wolhynien.de/impressum.htm
I think there must be something wrong.
Irene
Re: documents
eliane elena balko mettifogo
, Donnerstag, 16.03.2017, 04:30 (vor 3454 Tagen) @ Irene König
http://agadd.home.net.pl/metrykalia/439/sygn.%20112/pages/PL_1_439_112_0132.htm
Hello,
Can someone please help me translate this death certificate?
thanks
Eliane
Re: documents
Irene König
, Donnerstag, 16.03.2017, 16:37 (vor 3453 Tagen) @ eliane elena balko mettifogo
1898/#442
Wilhelm BALKON
husband of Eufrosine nee KÜMMEL, in Sapust
died on 13 may in the afternoon
burried on 15 may in the afternoon in Sapust by kantor D.STEIN
cause of death: typhoid
married, 45 years old, born in Prussia
Re: documents
eliane elena balko mettifogo
, Donnerstag, 16.03.2017, 16:54 (vor 3453 Tagen) @ Irene König
Hello Irene,
Thank you !!
Regards
Eliane
Re: documents
eliane elena balko mettifogo
, Freitag, 17.03.2017, 21:18 (vor 3452 Tagen) @ eliane elena balko mettifogo
Hello Irene,
I sent the document in Russian for you.
You received ?
Regards
Eliane
Re: documents
eliane elena balko mettifogo
, Freitag, 17.03.2017, 21:43 (vor 3452 Tagen) @ eliane elena balko mettifogo
http://agadd2.home.net.pl/metrykalia/439/sygn.%2093/pages/PL_1_439_0093_0006.htm
Hello Irene,
I found in the index of the church Vladimir Volynsky the numbers of the records of birth two sisters and a brother of the I grandfather.
Do you have to see if you can get these records in your database?
Elsa Balko ano 1904 número 805
Wilhelm Balko ano 1911 número 791
Olga Balkon ano1907 número 198
Thank you.
Eliane
Re: documents
Mechthild Walsdorf
, Sonntag, 19.03.2017, 01:54 (vor 3451 Tagen) @ eliane elena balko mettifogo
Hello Eliane,
here ist the birth entry of
Olga Balkon, daughter of Gustav Balkon an his wife Julianna (Higger)
http://agadd2.home.net.pl/metrykalia/439/sygn.%20263/pages/1_439_0_0_263_0087.htm
Mechthild
Re: documents
eliane elena balko mettifogo
, Sonntag, 19.03.2017, 02:04 (vor 3451 Tagen) @ Mechthild Walsdorf
Hello Mechthild ,
Thank you, thank you, thank you very much !!!!
You gave me a great gift.
Have a great weekend for you.
Regards
Eliane
Re: places of residence
eliane elena balko mettifogo
, Sonntag, 19.03.2017, 22:30 (vor 3450 Tagen) @ eliane elena balko mettifogo
Hello group,
As you can see I'm researching about my family in Wolhynia, but one thing I still can not understand.
My great-great-grandfather went to live with the brothers and researching the births I see that he and the brothers had several children and these children were always born in different places.
They kept changing and that's what I do not understand.
They hardly lived in the same city for more than two years.
Could anyone help me understand why this happened?
Thanks for listening.
Eliane
Re: places of residence
Irene König
, Montag, 20.03.2017, 12:29 (vor 3450 Tagen) @ eliane elena balko mettifogo
Hello Eliane,
I do not think they moved a lot. They lived in Janow (near Ozdziutycze) from about 1871 till about 1906, then settled down in Jelenow. For the birth of William in 1911, his mother may have gone to Sapust staying with relatives for a while.
* 1871 Janow
k 1873 Wysoki
k 1877 Janow
k 1878 Janow
k 1886 Janow
† 1898 Sapust
† 1903 Jasinowka (near Janow and Sapust, not on the map)
* 1907 Jelenow
* 1909 Jelenow
* 1911 Sapust
Janow and Sapust were very close to each other, so, the pastor wrote sometimes Janow, sometimes Sapust, I think. - Janow and Jelenow do not exist anymore.
1887
http://www.etomesto.ru/map-ukraine_spezialkarte-uk-750/?x=24.856057&y=50.857175
1933
http://www.etomesto.ru/map-ukraine_zapad/?find=1&z=1&x=24.856057&y=50.857175
Irene
Re: places of residence
eliane elena balko mettifogo
, Montag, 20.03.2017, 21:51 (vor 3449 Tagen) @ Irene König
Hello Irene ,
Thank you for the light you gave me.
It is very good to talk to people who know the history of the region, because here everyone who happened to be able to tell what life was like in Wolhynien has already died. You have no idea how much your site has helped me.
I keep reading the other posts because everyone always has something that teaches me to see how my ancestors lived.
Best Regards
Eliane
Q. thanks especially for the explanation about Janow and Jelenow, because I came to believe that Jelenow did not exist and that my grandfather's record was wrong. For a long time I looked for Jelenow on the internet and never found any information.
Re: places of residence
eliane elena balko mettifogo
, Dienstag, 21.03.2017, 01:38 (vor 3449 Tagen) @ eliane elena balko mettifogo
http://agadd.home.net.pl/metrykalia/439/sygn.%20112/pages/PL_1_439_112_0131.htm
Hello group,
Please, someone can translate the records number 438 and 439
.
thanks
Eliane
Re: places of residence
eliane elena balko mettifogo
, Dienstag, 21.03.2017, 04:26 (vor 3449 Tagen) @ eliane elena balko mettifogo
File: 8,239 DAI films 353 & 354 - Report of Contents (R. Benert)
Balko, Elsa
Balko, Wilhelm*
Hello , Please, would you like to know if anyone in the group knows how I can access the data of these microfilms?
Has anyone consulted and can you tell us what kind of information we can find?
Regards
Eliane
Re: places of residence
eliane elena balko mettifogo
, Dienstag, 21.03.2017, 04:39 (vor 3449 Tagen) @ eliane elena balko mettifogo
German Migration to Brazil
In 1935, the "Arbeitsgemeinschaft der Deutschen aus Russland und Polen" (Working Group for Germans from Russia and Poland), working in conjunction with the German government, began to facilitate the emigration to Brazil of Germans who had been refugees from Russia. Those who met the requirements were given free transportation to Sao Paolo, were expected to work as agricultural day-laborers for one year, and were then, upon payment of an installment, assigned a permanent place to live by the Arbeitsgemeinschaft. The correspondence between the Arbeitsgemeinschaft and the applicants for emigration eventually found its way into the files of the Deutsches Ausland-Institut, and from there, by virtue of having been captured by the Allies in 1945, into the U.S. National Archives, where a small portion of it was microfilmed.
This small portion can be found on Rolls 353 and 354 of Series T-81 of the "Records of the Deutsches Ausland-Institut, Stuttgart. Part II: The General Records". It contains the correspondence of over 100 families (mostly living in Prussia) with the Arbeitsgemeinschaft, dealing with various details of the selection process, transportation, financial considerations, etc. Also included are minimal amounts of genealogical information (usually of the immediate family only). In some cases there are only one or two letters; in others, the correspondence was quite extensive. In addition, about 35 people are mentioned in letters between Arbeitsgemeinschaft officials. These names are given in the list below. Far more than these names could have been listed if the decision had not been made to microfilm only the files A through E "as a sample". And to make matters worse, the files F through Z are apparently not to be found in either the National Archives of the U.S. nor the Bundesarchiv in Koblenz, Germany. Hopefully, they have not been discarded entirely, and will be found some day. But for those few families listed here, these letters may well provide interesting information about a significant moment in their family history.
Roll 353 contains the files, A through C, while Roll 354 has the files D and E, along with the inter-office correspondence referred to above. [We are still looking for files F to Z. Note that even though most of the names in the list below begin with the letters A to E, there are still many names that begin with other letters that are mentioned in the files that contains the person whose name begins with the letters A to E] Both rolls are available at the headquarters of the Germans from Russia Historical Society in Bismarck, or may be seen at, or ordered from, the U.S. National Archives (www.nara.gov).
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CONTENTS OF ROLLS 353 AND 354, SERIES T-81, OF THE RECORDS OF THE DEUTSCHES AUSLAND-INSTITUT
Film 353 contains the contents of DAI Folders 78, 79 and 80. Frame numbers extend from 5082517 to 5083907. Film 354 contains the contents of DAI Folder 81, plus other material of no relevance to Germans from Russia. Frame numbers of relevant material from 5083908 to 5084496.
Folder 78 (frames 5082517-5082734) contains mostly correspondence related to German minority affairs in Switzerland, South Africa, Southwest Africa, Spain, Yugoslavia and Czechoslovakia (S through T in German alphabetization). The time period is mostly the early to mid-1920s.
Folder 79 (frames 5082735-5083001) contains mostly correspondence from the 1920s related to German minority affairs in Hungary, Uruguay, the United States, and Venezuela (U through Z). It actually begins with a few letters concerning South Africa and Sweden, and then a file of letters relating to Germans in Nova Scotia, Canada (a few of whom were Nazi sympathizers) in the 1930s. The largest file is that of the United States, in which many letters pertain to efforts to bring German immigrants to the United States and to the Lutheran Church in the United States.
Folder 80 (frames 5083002-50839097) should be of great interest for families of Germans from Russia who emigrated during the 1930s to Brazil. This folder contains letters of these families to the Arbeitsgemeinschaft der Deutschen aus Russland und Polen (Association of Germans from Russia and Poland) in which they applied for that organization’s help in emigrating to Brazil. There was often an exchange of letters, sometimes extending over a considerable period of time, dealing with various problems involved in the application and emigration process. There was almost always a minimal amount of genealogical information given, and in many cases (marked with an asterisk*), a formal questionnaire was filled out with family information. Folder 80 contains correspondence with families whose name began with the letters A, B, and C. They are roughly in alphabetical order, but one must look through the entire list given below to be sure a name is or is not listed. The list below represents the family names in the order they appear on the microfilm. A few names recur after an interval, and these are marked with a plus sign+.
Folder 81, which was incorporated into Roll 354, covers the letters D and E, but with the addition of correspondence which mentions names beginning with letters ranging randomly from D to S. Unfortunately, the microfilming project in the 1950s filmed only these two folders “as a sample” (according to the National Archive’s “Guides to German Records Microfilmed at Alexandria, Va.”, no. 21, p. 8). The Folders which followed Folder 81 and contained files from F to Z have not been found, either in the U.S. National Archives nor in the Bundesarchiv in Koblenz, Germany.
The following is a list of surnames of families that corresponded with the Arbeitsgemeinschaft der Deutschen aus Russland und Polen in order to facilitate emigrating to Brazil in the 1930s:
Bohr, Friedrich+
Albrecht, Berthold*+
Albrecht, Daniel
Albrecht, Willi
Alexander, Waldemar
Altenburg, August
Althausen, Wilhelm*
Anuschewski, August
Ablas, Adolf
Ablas, Friedrich*
Appel, Alexander
Arndt, Adolf
Arndt, Alexander*
Arndt, August*
Arndt, Franz*
Arndt, Rudolf
Arndt, Wilhelm+
Assmann, Albert
Assmann, Emil
Bach, Kurt
Barke, Heinrich
Baldiga, Stanislaus
Balko, Elsa
Balko, Wilhelm*
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Re: places of residence
eliane elena balko mettifogo
, Mittwoch, 22.03.2017, 04:18 (vor 3448 Tagen) @ eliane elena balko mettifogo
Sorry .
Re: documents
Irene König
, Freitag, 17.03.2017, 23:03 (vor 3452 Tagen) @ eliane elena balko mettifogo
Hello Eliane,
Yes, I got the document. It reads:
Adolf BALKON, son of Gustav BALKON and his wife Julianna GIGGER (HIGGER?) in Helenow, Uyezd Vladymyr-Volynsky, born July 11th 1909
Issued by pastor TORINUS in Vladymyr-Volynsky on June 3th 1914
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Would you please ask your brother to make a scan of this document? The photograph is not that sharp and we would like to have the russian signature of pastor TORINUS and maybe the church seal for our wikipedia.
http://wiki.wolhynien.net/index.php/TORINUS,_Erhard
Regards, Irene
Re: documents
eliane elena balko mettifogo
, Freitag, 17.03.2017, 23:37 (vor 3452 Tagen) @ Irene König
Hello Irene,
I'll ask my brother to improve the image and send it back to you.
I wonder if the difference in dates really is because of the Julian / Gregorian calendar?
Could you tell me if Helenow, who was where he was born, still exists?
thanks
Eliane
Re: documents
eliane elena balko mettifogo
, Montag, 03.04.2017, 09:21 (vor 3436 Tagen) @ eliane elena balko mettifogo
Hello,
I wonder if anyone can clarify a question.
In 1899 my great-great-grandfather and two more children of him died of a disease translated as Just Typhoid.
As the record is in Russian, I wonder do they mean that the disease was typhoid or typhoid, as they are different diseases.
Thanks for any help.
thanks
Eliane
Re: death entry
Irene König
, Montag, 03.04.2017, 15:51 (vor 3436 Tagen) @ eliane elena balko mettifogo
Eliane,
there is written тифъ (typhoid) without specifying anything. This is nothing but a death entry, it's not a medical record.
Irene
Re: death entry
eliane balko mettifogo
, Montag, 10.04.2017, 03:43 (vor 3429 Tagen) @ Irene König
Hallo Forscher,
Ich frage mich, ob jemand von euch wissen, wie sie in den Schulen Wolhynien gearbeitet.?
Ich frage, weil ich einen Brief von meiner Großtante fand sie sagt, dass ihr Großvater ein Lehrer war und sie kam die Tafel erben er trug.
Vielen Dank für jede Information.
herzlich
Eliane
