Engel Family
Bruna Weiss 
, Montag, 06.02.2017, 00:27 (vor 2840 Tagen)
Hello everybody.
I am doing a geneology reaserch and I found out that my german family are from Janowka, in the Wolhynien region.
I already have this film of the birth certificate/batism of my great grandfather, August Engel, but this has no value for my German nationality request.
So, I need your help. Where I can request a "real" Birth Certificate of someone who was born in this region? Because I have not found the Registry of Janowka.
Hi Bruna,
August ENGEL was born 21 Jul 1887 in Janowka, Rozyszcze parish.
http://agadd.home.net.pl/metrykalia/439/sygn.%2012/pages/PL_1_439_12_0141.htm
He had brothers and sisters, all born in Janowka to parents Johann ENGEL and Emilie RESCHKE:
Gustav *1886 +1886
August *1887
Reinhold *1889
Rosalie *1892
Bertha *1895
Alma and Natalie *1897 (twins)
Johann ENGEL and Emilie RESCHKE got married in 1884.
http://agadd.home.net.pl/metrykalia/439/sygn.%2042/pages/PL_1_439_42_0101.htm
The church books are in the Central Archives of Historical Records in Warsaw (AGAD). To get the records certified you will need to get in touch with the archives.
http://agad.gov.pl/?page_id=904
However, all this will not prove that they were German, since August ENGEL was born in Volhynia Governorate in Russia and his parents are both from Piotrków Governorate in Congress Poland. Did August ENGEL ever apply for German citizenship before going to South America?
Irene
RE: ENGEL from Janowka
Bruna Weiss , Montag, 06.02.2017, 11:37 (vor 2840 Tagen) @ Irene König
Thank you. I don't know if they applied for a citizenship, I want to find out this too. But since they speak german, were luteran and all the documents that I had found are in the germany, maybe this can proof that they were German. I seen similar cases from germans that were born in Russia and got proof that were germans for the citizenship.
If I can found any of this documents:
Einbürgerungurkunde image
or an "евангелическо-лютеранскаго прихода", image
kind like a double german-russian birth certificate that the russians done for the germans in their country. Maybe is in the registry.
But since they speak german, were luteran and all the documents that I had found are in the germany, maybe this can proof that they were German.
I don't think so. Most of the German settlers in Volhynia were Russian subjects, otherwise they weren't allowed to buy land, for example. A lot of families had settled in Congress Poland for decades before coming to Volhynia.
It is true that some Germans in Volhynia were Prussian subject but they had come directly from Prussia to Volhynia - and your ENGELs did not.
Einbürgerungurkunde
You might find such a certificate if August ENGEL did apply for German citizenship. The records could be at Berlin in "Geheimes Staatsarchiv Preußischer Kulturbesitz".
https://www.gsta.spk-berlin.de/
Carlos Cesar Hennig from Brasilia could probably give you some advice on this. Go to one of his postings and you can send him a message by clicking the envelope icon next to his name.
https://forum.wolhynien.de/index.php?id=26539