Schirmer and Markwart

Michal Sleboda @, Samstag, 12.04.2014, 13:29 (vor 3931 Tagen)

I don't speak german and I have problems with english, so sorry.

My grandfather was born in Wladimir-Wolinski in 1911.

His parents surnames: Rajnold Szirmer and Julianna Markwant. When she married with Rajnold, she changed surname to Szirmer. I don't know, where they were born.

Probably, their names and surnames were polonized, so original names are Reinhold Schirmer and Juliane Markwart - propably Markwant is real surname, not Markwant.

I found on https://www.sggee.org/sggee/publicSearch

Birth and confimation records.
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And that:
Lost Relatives List - Saratov Volkszeitung Newspaper
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How to confirm, that is my family? I am sure that they. Any one can help me?

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Re: Schirmer and Markwart

Regina Steffensen, Samstag, 12.04.2014, 20:18 (vor 3930 Tagen) @ Michal Sleboda

Hallo Michal,

herzlich willkommen im Wolhynien-Forum ! :yes:

How to confirm, that is my family?

Wann und wo hat Dein Urgroßvater Reinhold SCHIRMER geheiratet und wann und wo ist er
gestorben ? Existieren Heirats- oder Sterbeurkunde ? Du benötigst ein Dokument, auf dem seine Eltern oder sein Geburtsdatum genannt sind ! Wann hat Deine Familie Wolhynien verlassen und wohin ist sie gegangen ?

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Ich habe für die Eltern Theodor SCHIRMER und Louise MARKWARDT den Heiratseintrag gefunden:

http://agadd.home.net.pl/metrykalia/439/sygn.%2041/pages/PL_1_439_41_0398.htm

SCHIRMER, Theodor, ledig, 22 Jahre, Sohn des Tuchmachers Wilhelm SCHIRMER in Kischlin und dessen Ehefrau Emilie geborene WEGWERTH, aus Gostnin, Gouv. Warschau gebürtig
oo am 29. November 1883 im Bethaus zu Sapust-Kischlin
MARKWARDT, Louise, ledig, 20 Jahre, Tochter des Fleischers Gottlieb MARKWARDT in Kischlin und dessen Ehefrau Anna Christine geb. RICHERT, aus Radom gebürtig.
Beide evangelisch-luherischer Konfession
[Quelle: Kirchenbuch Wladimir-Wolynsk, Heiraten 1883, Seite 407, Nummer 383]

Regina

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Re: Schirmer and Markwart

Michal Sleboda @, Sonntag, 13.04.2014, 10:14 (vor 3930 Tagen) @ Regina Steffensen

Thank you for the answer :-)

My greatgrandfather Reinhold Schirmer(Rajnold Szirmer) he was born in 12 janury 1890. He married with Juliane Markwart. They had a son Paul Schirmer(my grandfather) He was born 29 June 1911 in Vladimir Volinski.

In 1918 Reinhold Schirmer died in lazaret when he had 28 years old. When Juliane Schirmer nee Markwart received information about death of Reinhold Schirmer, she arrived with son Paul Schirmer(Paweł Szirmer) to the Łódź.

In Łódź she married again. Her new surname Macjon Julianna. She died 16 november 1951 in Brzeziny. I have died certificate of death.

Paul Schirmer(Paweł Szirmer in Polish) was a polish soldier in II WW.
From 1939 - 1945 was a prisoner of german war camps.
In 1949 married with Janina Łukowska nee Nesler in Lublin. Paweł Szirmer died 4 july 1976 in Lublin. Paul had two daughters, where they living in Lublin now.

I don't have any documents of Reinhold Schirmer and other Schirmer's except Paul Schirmer.

I have found on www.sggee.com List of separated German refugee families in Russia during World War One as reported in the Saratov Volkszeitung.
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Here is birth infomation about Reinhold Schirmer. Father Theodore Schirmer and mother Louise Markwart, but I can't read other words. Position 394.
http://agadd.home.net.pl/metrykalia/439/sygn.%2015/pages/PL_1_439_15_0050.htm

Here is birth information about Juliane Markwart. I can't read it too. Position 1195.
http://agadd.home.net.pl/metrykalia/439/sygn.%2015/pages/PL_1_439_15_0150.htm

Re: Schirmer and Markwart

Ansgar Mantey, Sonntag, 13.04.2014, 12:25 (vor 3930 Tagen) @ Michal Sleboda

Hallo

Ergänzung zur Heirat

Markwardt Gustav 18 oo am 21 Feb 1884 in Rozyszcze Parschkiewicz Magdalena 22 2380027/1884 36 110

Geburt Juliane Markwart:

Barischkewitschor Markwart Juliane * 13 Sep 1890 Wladimir
Magdalena Barischkewitsch born Markwart 2380021/1890 150 1195 illegitimate; m. name Markwart

Tod Magdalena Markwart.

Markwart nee Bariskiewicz Magdalene + 1-Mar 1892 Wladimir-Wolynsk
2380033/1892 40 95 , 30 y, born Labischin, Bromberg, Prussia, husband Gustav

mfg

Ansgar

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