Shitomirer Zeitung, 1916 - Landenteignungslisten
Jose Marcos Rosin 
, Córdoba, Córdoba, Argentina, Donnerstag, 21.11.2024, 16:05 (vor 13 Tagen)
Hi everyone, I have a simple question, is there access to the complete lists?
I know that you here at Wolhynien.de have an extraction, but is there a complete list available online? Or are the original files available somewhere?
I just want information about 2 or 3 names from the list.
Thanks.
Landenteignungslisten - Wilhelm Besler, Horodyszcze
Jose Marcos Rosin , Córdoba, Córdoba, Argentina, Donnerstag, 21.11.2024, 18:31 (vor 13 Tagen) @ Jose Marcos Rosin
I can narrow down what I need to one piece of information.
I just want to know about Wilhelm Besler from Horodyszcze.
I know he is listed because I looked him up on the AGOFF website but I want to know his father's name, that is the information I am most interested in, thanks.
I searched for "Besler" in "exact" mode on AGOFF and this is the result.
I think this would be the direct link:
https://agoff.de/?p=103134&id=29065#erg
![[image]](https://i.postimg.cc/qRx7TZW6/Wilhelm-Besler-consulta-1915-Expropiaciones.png)
Extra question:
There is another "Wilhelm Besler" in Nespodsjanka III (Niespodzianka III), which is basically a village very close to Horodyszcze, could it be the same Wilhelm or another one?
Landenteignungslisten - Wilhelm Besler, Horodyszcze
Irene König 
, Freitag, 22.11.2024, 11:20 (vor 12 Tagen) @ Jose Marcos Rosin
Hallo Jose,
der Vater von Wilhelm Besler aus Horodyszcze hieß Gottlieb Besler. (Und zur Info: die komplette Liste ist nur für Mitglieder der AGoFF einsehbar.).
"Wilhelm Besler" in Nespodsjanka III (Niespodzianka III),... could it be the same Wilhelm or another one?
Nein, dessen Vater hieß Christoph.
Gruß, Irene
Landenteignungslisten - Wilhelm Besler, Horodyszcze
Jose Marcos Rosin , Córdoba, Córdoba, Argentina, Freitag, 22.11.2024, 20:20 (vor 12 Tagen) @ Irene König
Excellent, thank you very much Irene. 
You just expanded my family tree, I had been searching for a long time and incredibly it was the name I was expecting, that Gottlieb was the biggest suspect of being Wilhelm's father haha.
I understand that the list of land expropriations includes the name of the person concerned, the name of his father and the area of the land.
2 questions that came to me from this:
1- Does it include any other information about them?
2- Does it include people who were not expropriated?
For example, my great-great-grandfather Michael Rosin from Topcha, I always thought that he was not taken into exile because he had his son (my great-grandfather Julius) fighting in the First World War for the Russians, but I see that he's mentioned on the AGOFF list.
Landenteignung vs. Verbannung
Irene König , Samstag, 23.11.2024, 08:04 (vor 11 Tagen) @ Jose Marcos Rosin
1- Does it include any other information about them?
Ja, die Größe des Landes, das enteignet wurde. Wilhelm BESLER hatte einen relativ großen Besitz: mehr als 20 Desjatinen.
2- Does it include people who were not expropriated?
Nein, natürlich nicht. Man sollte die Enteignung nicht verwechseln mit der Verbannung. Enteignet konnte nur werden, wer Land besaß oder gepachtet hatte. Ein Cousin meines Großvaters ist zum Beispiel bereits 1913 in die USA ausgewandert. Seine Familie blieb zurück. Er steht auf der Enteignungsliste von 1915, weil das Land ihm immer noch gehörte, obwohl er im Ausland lebte.
Landenteignung vs. Verbannung
Jose Marcos Rosin , Córdoba, Córdoba, Argentina, Samstag, 23.11.2024, 14:05 (vor 11 Tagen) @ Irene König
Genial, muchas gracias Irene, very informative as always. 