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Family Holc Zander (Antwort)

Ansgar Mantey — Sun, 21 Mar 2021 21:16:00 +0000

Hallo Gabriel

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Gottlieb Holz und Elenore Holz / Lippert leben noch im Jahr 1940

Mfg

Ansgar

Family Holc Zander (Antwort)

Gabriel Holc — Sun, 21 Mar 2021 20:02:18 +0000

Could you help me find the death records of Gustaw Holz and Eleonore Lippert?

Olga Zander * 1903 (Antwort)

Gabriel Holc — Sun, 21 Mar 2021 19:09:00 +0000

Oh! Sorry. I really don’t know. I’m going to investigate the correct data. Thanks a lot

Olga Zander * 1903 (Antwort)

Ansgar Mantey — Sun, 21 Mar 2021 19:06:16 +0000

Hallo Gabriel

Zander Gustav * 29 Nov 1905 Alexandria, Kr. Lutzk Lutzk

Vielleicht ist "Mathilde" falsch

Meine Frage war: Stimmt das Geburtsdatum ??? oder wann ist Gustav Zander geboren ??

MfG
Ansgar

Olga Zander * 1903 (Antwort)

Gabriel Holc — Sun, 21 Mar 2021 18:37:46 +0000

No no. That’s not Olga’s brother. Because their mother is Ottilie. I will investigate their father last name because I don’t know how to spell it.

Olga Zander * 1903 (Antwort)

Ansgar Mantey — Sun, 21 Mar 2021 18:28:10 +0000

Hallo

Zander Gustav * 29 Nov 1905 Alexandria, Kr. Lutzk Lutzk
Mutter: Mathilde Zander
http://agadd2.home.net.pl/metrykalia/439/sygn.%20229/pages/1_439_0_0_229_0030.htm

Stimmt das Geburtsdatum von Gustav ?? Ist das der Bruder von Olga Zander ??

MfG

Ansgar

Family Lippert oo Wagner (Antwort)

Gabriel Holc — Sun, 21 Mar 2021 17:59:36 +0000

We need to rectify the surnames since here in Argentina they changed them to "Holc" and the original, as can be seen in the records, is "Holz". In addition we also need to be able to present to the Polish Embassy in Argentina to request the Polish passport.

Family Lippert oo Wagner (Antwort)

Ansgar Mantey — Sun, 21 Mar 2021 17:51:41 +0000

Hallo Gabriel

Bitte schreibe immer mit Vornamen und Nachnamen ... Danke

Wozu brauchst du die Urkunden ???

Du kannst die Seiten von den Links doch auf deinem PC speichern.

Oder du schreibst das Archiv in Polen an, fügst die Links hinzu und fragst nach Urkunden oder nach beglaubigten Kopien des Eintrags.

Viel Erfolg

Ansgar

Olga Zander * 1903 (Antwort)

Holc — Sun, 21 Mar 2021 17:48:30 +0000

We are investigating. What we do know at the moment is that only two of Ottilie's children have the surname Zander: Olga and Gustaw. Apparently at that time, Ottilie's parents were not accepting of her partner named Tomas Bassilkov (or Bazilkof, or Walczikow or something like that, we must find her grave here to see how the surname is spelled). Later, Olga's parents accepted Tomas into the family and the following children carried the father's surname. Therefore Ottilie has two children with the surname Zander (Olga and Gustaw) and then the following children Martha, Alexander, Basilio and Emilie had the surname of their father.

Olga Zander * 1903 (Antwort)

Ansgar Mantey — Sun, 21 Mar 2021 17:34:21 +0000

Hallo Gabriel

Zander Olga * 22 May 1903 Alexandria Lutzk
Mutter: Ottilie Zander
http://agadd2.home.net.pl/metrykalia/439/sygn.%20204/pages/1_439_0_0_204_0086.htm

Olga Zander ist unehelich geboren, die Angabe des Vaters fehlt. Es gibt auch keinen Heiratseintrag von Ottilie Zander. Daher besteht fast keine Möglichkeit über Ottilie Zanders Vorfahren zu finden.

Gibt es in der Familie Hinweise, Briefe oder Dokumente aus denen die Eltern von Ottilie hervorgehen ???

MfG
Ansgar

Family Lippert oo Wagner (Antwort)

Holc — Sun, 21 Mar 2021 17:30:58 +0000

Thanks a lot! it is very important for me to know my ancestors. I would like to know if at that time, people had any birth certificates or were they only registered in the books of the churches? And if there were birth certificates I would like to know if there is any way to get them. Who should I contact to request?

Family Lippert oo Wagner (Antwort)

Ansgar Mantey — Sun, 21 Mar 2021 15:55:28 +0000

Hallo Gabriel

Lippert Adam + 04Jun 1921 in Josefine, Kr. Lutzk Rozyszcze Age 77 years, geb. Vicentowka Wagner (wife) Katharine
http://agadd2.home.net.pl/metrykalia/439/sygn.%20283/pages/1_439_0_0_283_0095.htm

Lippert geb. Wagner Catharine + 06 Jul 1898 in Dobraja Rozyszcze Age 43 y, geb. Wincentowka husband Adam
http://agadd.home.net.pl/metrykalia/439/sygn.%2068/pages/PL_1_439_68_0082.htm

Wagner Catharina * 1856 Born: Vincentowke, Confirm: Dobro Rozyszcze
Eltern: Martyn Wagner und Rosina
http://agadd.home.net.pl/metrykalia/439/sygn.%2032/pages/PL_1_439_32_0082.htm

Wagner Martin oo am 29Sep 1853 in Zhitomir Rein Rosina 1883187/2

Wagner Martin + 18Mar 1882 in Dobra Rozyszcze
http://agadd.home.net.pl/metrykalia/439/sygn.%2056/pages/PL_1_439_56_0251.htm

Wagner geb. Rein Rosine + 17 Jan 1896 in Dobraja RozyszczeAge 67 y, geb. Lutsk county husband Martin Wagner
http://agadd.home.net.pl/metrykalia/439/sygn.%2066/pages/PL_1_439_66_0022.htm

Ansgar

Family Holc Zander (Antwort)

Ansgar Mantey — Sun, 21 Mar 2021 11:35:07 +0000

Hallo Gabriel

Holz Gustav * 30 Jan 1902 Dobraja ROZYSZCZE
Eltern: Gottlieb Holz und Eleonore Lippert
http://agadd2.home.net.pl/metrykalia/439/sygn.%20195/pages/PL_1_439_195_0123.htm

Gottlieb Holc and Eleonora Lippert

Holz Gottlieb 25 oo am 24-Aug 1899 in Rozyszcze Lippert Eleonore 20
Eltern: Georg Holz & Marianne Selent sowie Adam Lippert & Catharine Wagner
http://agadd.home.net.pl/metrykalia/439/sygn.%2053/pages/PL_1_439_53_0060.htm

Holz Gottlieb * 03 Sep 1874 Josephine ROZYSZCZE
Eltern: Georg Holz und Marianne Selent
http://agadd.home.net.pl/metrykalia/439/sygn.%207/pages/PL_1_439_7_0095.htm

Holz Georg + 21Jul 1883 Josephine Rozyszcze 50 yr., geb. Neubrow, G. Grodna Ehefrau Selent Marianne
http://agadd.home.net.pl/metrykalia/439/sygn.%2057/pages/PL_1_439_57_0121.htm

Lippert Eleonore * 02 Aug 1879 Dobra ROZYSZCZE
Eltern: Adam Lippert Catharine Wagner
http://agadd.home.net.pl/metrykalia/439/sygn.%208/pages/PL_1_439_8_0030.htm

Lippert Adam 26 oo am 20 Jun 1872 Rozyszcze Wagner Katharina
Eltern: Gottfried Lippert & -- Martin Wagner & --
http://agadd.home.net.pl/metrykalia/439/sygn.%2039/pages/PL_1_439_39_0144.htm

Zander Olga * 22 May 1903 Alexandria Lutzk
Mutter: Ottilie Zander
http://agadd2.home.net.pl/metrykalia/439/sygn.%20204/pages/1_439_0_0_204_0086.htm

MfG
Ansgar

Family Holc Zander

Gabriel Holc — Sun, 21 Mar 2021 11:07:16 +0000

Hello my name is Gabriel Holc and I am from Argentina. I am looking for information about my great grandparents: Gustaw Holc and Olga Zander. Gustaw Holc was born in Wolyn (in Dobva or something like that) on January 30, 1902, his parents were named Gottlieb Holc and Eleonora Lippert (I'm not sure if his mother's name was that). Olga Zander was born on May 22, 1903 in Alexandriya. Her mother was named Ottilia Zander. she took confirmation at the Lutsk Evangelical Lutheran Church on March 30, 1922 with Pastor Kleindienst. in 1928 they emigrated to Argentina. I need to have more information about your family and if a birth certificate can be obtained.