Wolhynien-Forum - Re: Ausgehend von nichts

Re: Ausgehend von nichts (Antwort)

Elena Konschin — Wed, 30 Sep 2026 19:35:25 +0000

Hello Kevin,

I think your Rudolph Rinas is my grandfather's older brother, Emil Rinas. Our family heard that Rudolph 1894/1895 went to America and married a woman, changed his surname from Rinas to Manos. I do not know exactly how many children my great-grandfather Gottfried Rinas of 1868 and his wife Agnes Rinas (Buchholz) of 1874/1875, her father Jacob Buchholz. I know a few names Ewald, Ernst (he had a wife of Antony), Emil (my grandfather) 1908 b., Olga, Wanda born in 1906, Marta, she married Emil Sommerfeld. The family spoke on the Lutheran, Lutheran, they are from the East/Westproisen, the city of Lublin in Poland is mentioned. In Volyn they lived in Lyubahin, Marushovka Novograd-Volynsky county. I have some photos battered with time, but you can find out something too.

How far have you come in the search? If there is interest, you can try to look for information on the line of Rinas.

Respectfully, Elena

Re: Ausgehend von nichts (Antwort)

Kevin Manos — Fri, 12 Jul 2013 11:56:37 +0000

Ich denke, dies ist ihm, weil die Reise Details, was er auf seinen Antrag auf Einbürgerung stellen im Jahr 1920 entsprechen. Auch nennt er einen Bruder namens Ernst und mein Großvater hatte einen Bruder namens Ernst.

Ich glaube, was geschrieben steht, wie Labukin kann tatsächlich sein Lubachin in Nowogród Wolynski. Der Mann, den er gehen, um in Kanada, Gustav Schwanke sehen, war von Usatschinskaja Huta, in Nowogród Wolynski

Re: Ausgehend von nichts (Antwort)

Gerd K Müller — Fri, 12 Jul 2013 11:49:02 +0000

Dear Kevin,

what makes you think that this Rudolf Rines ist the person you are looking for?

In the manifest his last place of residence is "Labukin" but his place of birth is "Lubakin", but I can't find neither Labukin nor Lubakin.

Best regards

Gerd

Re: Ausgehend von nichts (Antwort)

Kevin Manos — Mon, 08 Jul 2013 15:53:23 +0000

I have finally searched the proper dates and I believe I have found my grandfather under the name Rudolf Rines rather than Rudolf Manos, as he was known later. Who knows what his German/Russian name really was. On the ship passenger list from Trieste, his home is listed as Labukin, Russia. Labukin does not turn up any matches but there are several towns in Volhynia sort of close to that. Does anyone have a studied opinion as to what town may have been interpreted as Labukin when he booked passage in Trieste?

Thank you very much.

Kevin

Re: Ausgehend von nichts (Antwort)

Kevin Manos — Fri, 28 Jun 2013 10:38:09 +0000

I have seen quite a number of references in German/Russian genealogy sites to the surname Mannes. That seems to be a fairly common name that could easily be interpreted as Manos, although it would depend on where the misspelling or misinterpretation actually took place. Nobody entered Ellis Island under the name Rudolf or Rudolph Mannes either, so that's of limited help even if that is the correct name.

Re: Ausgehend von nichts (Antwort)

Kevin Manos — Fri, 28 Jun 2013 08:10:26 +0000

Danke Catharina. Ich wünschte, ich wusste, dass Maron in der Tat war die alte Schreibweise unseres Familiennamens. Das würde die Suche viel einfacher.

Re: Ausgehend von nichts (Antwort)

Catharina Faust — Thu, 27 Jun 2013 21:10:53 +0000

Hallo Kevin,
vielleicht gehören diese Personen ja auch zu deiner Familie (?):

Julianna Maron verheiratet mit Johann Krentz

Tochter: Mathilde, geboren 15.8.1898 in Elisabetpol (Wladimir- Wolynsk), Taufpate war Friedrich Maron

Den Geburtseintrag findest du hier:
http://agadd.home.net.pl/metrykalia/439/sygn.%2081/pages/PL_1_439_81_0229.htm

Viele Grüße!
Catharina

Re: Ausgehend von nichts (Antwort)

Kevin Manos — Thu, 27 Jun 2013 15:17:36 +0000

Thank you Gerd. I will do some digging on that Rudolf Maron, but a quick look at census data makes me believe he may have settled in Buffalo, NY whereas my grandfather joined the US Army.

Re: Ausgehend von nichts (Antwort)

Gerd K Müller — Thu, 27 Jun 2013 14:12:41 +0000

Dear Kevin, dear Ansgar,

the Rudolf Maron who went to New York in 1914 was not married. The 20 year old Auguste Maron was his sister.

Kind regards

Gerd K. Müller

Re: Ausgehend von nichts (Antwort)

Kevin Manos — Thu, 27 Jun 2013 11:28:47 +0000

Thanks for the reply Ansgar. Most of what I have is heresay or based on later documents. I don't know what his family name was in Germany or Russia, but he continued to use Manos for the rest of his life. I assume he was single when he arrived in USA because he married my grandmother in 1924.

He put on a form in 1942 that he arrived in America in 1919. I find that odd since he petitioned for naturalization at Camp Upton in 1919 and was naturalized, once again going by what he put on a form in 1942, in 1920 in New York City.

The only reference I have to his hometown is on his naturalization petition and it is listed as Wolen, Russia, which I take to mean Wolhyn. He also claims to have left from the port of Trieste, but I cannot find his name or anything similar on any passenger lists out of Trieste during that period. I don't even know if he went to South America and then ended up in New York later.

Thank you!

Re: Ausgehend von nichts (Antwort)

Ansgar Mantey — Thu, 27 Jun 2013 11:04:55 +0000

Hello Kevin

It seems to be that Manos is a mistake in writing or reading in the past.
It might be Maron

In the odessa I´ve found
Manon, Ferdinand oo 9 Feb 1878 in Roshischtsche Sommerfeld, Christine

but all their children were written as Maron

On Ellis Island I` ve found Rudolf Maron arrived in 1914 New York
he is 22 years old his wife called Auguste...
Does it sound familar to you ???

Which information do you have from the immigration record ???

regards from Germany

Ansgar

Ausgehend von nichts

Kevin Manos — Thu, 27 Jun 2013 10:26:51 +0000

Hallo, Ich versuche, einige Fortschritte bei der Suche nach den Wurzeln meines Großvaters bekommen. Er kam nach Amerika irgendwann 1912-1919. Es gibt keine "Ellis Island" Angebot für ihn, obwohl er auf seiner Einbürgerung Anfrage darauf hingewiesen, dass er an der New York gelandet. Ich bin mir ziemlich sicher, dass er aus Wolhynien war, aber er aufgelistet sein Geburtshaus als Deutschland und Russland manchmal zu anderen Zeiten. Er war 1889-1894 Zeitraum geboren.

Ich vermute, dass er Deutscher ist, weil sein Name war Rufolph (Rudolf) und er hatte angeblich einen Vater namens Friedrich und einen Bruder namens Ernst.

Das einzige Zuhause für ihn aufgeführt ist Wolen (Wolhyn) und ich glaube nicht, dass war eine Stadt, nur die Region. Das größte Problem ist mit dem Nachnamen. Ich finde nicht, Manos auf Forschungsstandorte für Wolhynien, aber viele Variationen dieses Namens. Ich weiß nicht, ob es Juden oder einfach Muttersprache Deutsch ist.

Wenn jemand kann mir irgendwelche Tipps, um mir zu helfen, ich würde es sehr zu schätzen. Ich habe viele Stunden damit, seine Herkunft untersuchen verbracht und ich habe kein Glück bei der Suche einen Weg zurück nach Europa.

Ich spreche kein Deutsch. Ich bin mit einem Übersetzer.

Kevin